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Season 4, Episode 7: How Coroners Use DNA to Make Bones Talk

Season #4

It’s hard enough for me to imagine having a missing loved one. Can you? Then picture finding out that a serial killer has been operating where and when your loved one went missing. That’s the scenario we have for this week’s case. Authorities may never know exactly how many victims this killer had, but a new coroner investigating the case is determined to identify as many of the known remains as he can.

Our book this week is “The Double Life of a Serial Murderer” and our guest is Hamilton County, Indiana Coroner Jeff Jellison. He is a former law enforcement officer and is a certified Medical-Legal Death Investigator.  Jeff has a very big job trying to determine who the bones found on Herb Baumeister’s Indiana estate belong to. And as you’ll hear, there were thousands of bones and bone fragments discovered on Fox Hollow Farm. Let’s investigate what in the world happened in central Indiana.

Then we’ll dive into Matthew 7:1-5:

“Do not judge and criticize and condemn others, so that you may not be judged and criticized and condemned yourselves. For just as you judge and criticize and condemn others, you will be judged and criticized and condemned, and in accordance with the measure you [use to] deal out to others, it will be dealt out again to you. Why do you stare from without at the very small particle that is in your brother’s eye but do not become aware of and consider the beam of timber that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me get the tiny particle out of your eye’, when there is the beam of timber in your own eye? You hypocrite, first get the beam of timber out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the tiny particle out of your brother’s eye.”

This isn’t a long passage, but there is so much practical wisdom here so be sure you catch this episode, then check out some earlier ones. I’ve had so many amazing guests who gave me fantastic information you won’t want to miss. You can also help someone else begin their journey as a different kind of PI - a person of impact, when you share the episode, and when you subscribe, give me a five-star rating and a nice review. Don’t forget to check out these resources, and give Jeff Jellison a call if you have information on the Fox Hollow Farms case, or if you need help to locate a missing loved one. 


Call Jeff Jellison, Hamilton County Coroner, at 317-770-4415.

Learn more about the work to identify remains at Fox Hollow Farm

Listen to Season 1, Episode 32: The Skeleton Crew

Think all coroners are as qualified as Jeff Jellison? Think again. 


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